Comments on: Balancing Relationships http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/ Club, Campaigners, Contact Work and All That Stuff NOW Wed, 16 May 2012 05:54:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Lucho Llanca http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-2169 Lucho Llanca Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:27:29 +0000 http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/#comment-2169 Thank you for sharing this Bro, very good!! Muy bueno :-) Thank you for sharing this Bro, very good!!
Muy bueno :-)

]]> By: Chrs http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-2059 Chrs Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:21:24 +0000 http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/#comment-2059 Thanks for the feedback. That is encouraging to hear what your area is doing. Sorry if I came across pessimistic. I wasn't really saying it couldn't work, I was more so seeing if anyone had any obstacles they faced with that model and what they did to get around them. Still would love to hear from that perspective if anyone has any thoughts. Also, I would love to get a hold of any training material/job descriptions you or anyone has for Team Leaders. And I would love to here what kind of formats you use for your leadership team meeting with having 8 different teams. Do you meet all together once a month and break into teams? Does each team meet separately? Monthly? Weekly? How do you as the area director connect with over 50 leaders. Our area has about 40 leaders between 3 YL Clubs and 1 WL Club and we are trying to figure some of this out. Any thoughts and feedback are welcome. Thanks! Chris Thanks for the feedback. That is encouraging to hear what your area is doing. Sorry if I came across pessimistic. I wasn’t really saying it couldn’t work, I was more so seeing if anyone had any obstacles they faced with that model and what they did to get around them. Still would love to hear from that perspective if anyone has any thoughts.

Also, I would love to get a hold of any training material/job descriptions you or anyone has for Team Leaders. And I would love to here what kind of formats you use for your leadership team meeting with having 8 different teams. Do you meet all together once a month and break into teams? Does each team meet separately? Monthly? Weekly? How do you as the area director connect with over 50 leaders. Our area has about 40 leaders between 3 YL Clubs and 1 WL Club and we are trying to figure some of this out.

Any thoughts and feedback are welcome. Thanks!
Chris

]]> By: PHSYL http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-2012 PHSYL Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:45:15 +0000 http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/#comment-2012 Chris, thanks for your comment and great questions. We have used this model in our area for over ten years with currently over 50 leaders in 8 YL and WL clubs. Only one club is led by a full time staff member. One is led by a Student Staff. The rest are led by volunteer team leaders. My goal as a staff person is to not team lead any clubs, but to train people to do it. It could lead to burnout depending on what you are asking the volunteer to do. It also depends on a lot of variables including their experience, their job/school, their family, etc. One of our team leaders has been the VP of a software company, he is now a top salesman (who travels semi-frequently) for another company and has 4 young kids. He also leads a small group for guys in their 20s. He and his wife have made it possible by having all the meetings at their house to make it an extension of their family's ministry together. They all have a role and he isn't gone from them much for YL. He is also experienced and gifted so some of the aspects of YL do not take much time for him. Other team leaders are in college and also work, but they are able to make it work just fine. In fact one of the ideas behind this website is to take the weight off volunteer's shoulders so they can use the time they do have in relationships. I could go on and on with more details if needed. Just let me know. In summary, (and I know because I was a volunteer for 7 years before coming on YL staff), it is possible! Chris, thanks for your comment and great questions. We have used this model in our area for over ten years with currently over 50 leaders in 8 YL and WL clubs. Only one club is led by a full time staff member. One is led by a Student Staff. The rest are led by volunteer team leaders. My goal as a staff person is to not team lead any clubs, but to train people to do it.

It could lead to burnout depending on what you are asking the volunteer to do. It also depends on a lot of variables including their experience, their job/school, their family, etc.

One of our team leaders has been the VP of a software company, he is now a top salesman (who travels semi-frequently) for another company and has 4 young kids. He also leads a small group for guys in their 20s. He and his wife have made it possible by having all the meetings at their house to make it an extension of their family’s ministry together. They all have a role and he isn’t gone from them much for YL. He is also experienced and gifted so some of the aspects of YL do not take much time for him.

Other team leaders are in college and also work, but they are able to make it work just fine. In fact one of the ideas behind this website is to take the weight off volunteer’s shoulders so they can use the time they do have in relationships. I could go on and on with more details if needed. Just let me know. In summary, (and I know because I was a volunteer for 7 years before coming on YL staff), it is possible!

]]> By: Chris http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-2004 Chris Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:18:26 +0000 http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/#comment-2004 In our area we are developing more Volunteer Teams and Team Leaders as well. The problem we have run into is how much expectation we should put on the Volunteer Team Leader who also works a 40 hr/wk job without burning them out. Looking at the model above, if I'm not mistaken, it seems as if the Team Leader would be expected to "balance" at least 9 kid relationships (3 contact work, 3 club, and 3 campaigner), all the leaders on the team (we have about 10-12 leaders on each team), and Old Club Kids (however many that would be). That starts to add up to a lot of relationships to expect them to balance all while leading an effective Club, etc. My question I would ask is, is it realistic to ask this much of a volunteer? Are we setting them up for burnout/failure? Has anyone else dealt with this issue? What are some of your thoughts? Thanks! In our area we are developing more Volunteer Teams and Team Leaders as well. The problem we have run into is how much expectation we should put on the Volunteer Team Leader who also works a 40 hr/wk job without burning them out. Looking at the model above, if I’m not mistaken, it seems as if the Team Leader would be expected to “balance” at least 9 kid relationships (3 contact work, 3 club, and 3 campaigner), all the leaders on the team (we have about 10-12 leaders on each team), and Old Club Kids (however many that would be). That starts to add up to a lot of relationships to expect them to balance all while leading an effective Club, etc. My question I would ask is, is it realistic to ask this much of a volunteer? Are we setting them up for burnout/failure? Has anyone else dealt with this issue? What are some of your thoughts? Thanks!

]]> By: Alex http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-2003 Alex Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:01:23 +0000 http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/#comment-2003 Agreed! The volunteer model is amazing. It really helps to have a great area director and amazing committee that support volunteer leaders though. That's crucial. Also, that Alex guy seems pretty cool. Agreed!

The volunteer model is amazing. It really helps to have a great area director and amazing committee that support volunteer leaders though. That’s crucial.

Also, that Alex guy seems pretty cool.

]]> By: Andrew McWilliam http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-1996 Andrew McWilliam Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:19:05 +0000 http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/#comment-1996 I know Dougie well... I was formerly on Vancouver Island about an hour away from him. Now still in BC but in the Okanagan in a town called Vernon. Thanks again. I know Dougie well… I was formerly on Vancouver Island about an hour away from him. Now still in BC but in the Okanagan in a town called Vernon. Thanks again.

]]> By: PHSYL http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-1994 PHSYL Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:29:59 +0000 http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/#comment-1994 Andrew, glad it was helpful! Yes I am a big advocate for the role of the volunteer in YL for a ton of different reasons. I'm excited to hear about YL Canada. I have a friend Dougie in BC who works with YL. Andrew, glad it was helpful! Yes I am a big advocate for the role of the volunteer in YL for a ton of different reasons. I’m excited to hear about YL Canada. I have a friend Dougie in BC who works with YL.

]]> By: Andrew McWilliam http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-1993 Andrew McWilliam Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:10:58 +0000 http://ylhelp.com/2011/10/25/balancing-relationships/#comment-1993 Awesome post! We are just moving towards a volunteer team leader model in Canada (where as previous almost every Club was led by staff) so a post like this is very helpful to us as we are figuring out the unique roles everyone will play. Thanks! Awesome post! We are just moving towards a volunteer team leader model in Canada (where as previous almost every Club was led by staff) so a post like this is very helpful to us as we are figuring out the unique roles everyone will play. Thanks!

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