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	<title>Comments on: The 50/20 Club</title>
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	<description>Club, Campaigners, Contact Work and All That Stuff NOW</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Conrad</title>
		<link>http://ylhelp.com/2008/03/12/the-5020-club/comment-page-1/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My leadership team and I figured out a good way to collaborate on contact work goals.  It&#039;s similar to the PPL, for those of us on staff, but using Google Docs, you can easily create a form to input names of kids, notes, etc that is then added to a Google Doc spreadsheet.  The spreadsheet would have to be shared with the leadership team if you want others to be able to see the whole thing.  This also makes a good prayer list!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzgaUOW6GIs

Mine includes these inputs: Kid Name:	School:	Relationship Level:	Primary Contact:	  Date last asked to attend Camp or Fall Weekend:	Notes:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My leadership team and I figured out a good way to collaborate on contact work goals.  It&#8217;s similar to the PPL, for those of us on staff, but using Google Docs, you can easily create a form to input names of kids, notes, etc that is then added to a Google Doc spreadsheet.  The spreadsheet would have to be shared with the leadership team if you want others to be able to see the whole thing.  This also makes a good prayer list!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzgaUOW6GIs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzgaUOW6GIs</a></p>
<p>Mine includes these inputs: Kid Name:	School:	Relationship Level:	Primary Contact:	  Date last asked to attend Camp or Fall Weekend:	Notes:</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://ylhelp.com/2008/03/12/the-5020-club/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t do YL but i do something similar in DC.  there are days i would not get out of bed if it were not for the paycheck.  (i keeps it ril.)  my heart is for Christ and the youth but sometimes the tangible, cold hard fact hits me that i won&#039;t get paid if i don&#039;t go.  my core motive is to be a part of God&#039;s work.  my immediate motive is to get paid.  maybe that is the way God designed us, maybe not.  incentives other than eternal ones may be pointers to/reminders of our core reasons for doing what we do.  maybe using incentives can work if they are used wisely and infrequently. 
james</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t do YL but i do something similar in DC.  there are days i would not get out of bed if it were not for the paycheck.  (i keeps it ril.)  my heart is for Christ and the youth but sometimes the tangible, cold hard fact hits me that i won&#8217;t get paid if i don&#8217;t go.  my core motive is to be a part of God&#8217;s work.  my immediate motive is to get paid.  maybe that is the way God designed us, maybe not.  incentives other than eternal ones may be pointers to/reminders of our core reasons for doing what we do.  maybe using incentives can work if they are used wisely and infrequently.<br />
james</p>
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		<title>By: PHSYL</title>
		<link>http://ylhelp.com/2008/03/12/the-5020-club/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>PHSYL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment Tom. Authenticity and motivation out of personal surrender to Christ is the best reason to do and grow in outreach and contact work with kids. 

Also, thanks for the encouragement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment Tom. Authenticity and motivation out of personal surrender to Christ is the best reason to do and grow in outreach and contact work with kids. </p>
<p>Also, thanks for the encouragement!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Brown</title>
		<link>http://ylhelp.com/2008/03/12/the-5020-club/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually having a conversation with one of the leaders in my area today about how to promote contact work and hold some element of accounatbility to the ministry. Both he and I agreed that a method like this would definitely lack authenticity and in many ways the Holy Spirit&#039;s reshaping and leading of their lives. 

I wish it were as easy as building an incentive for leaders to strive for, but I feel like this is in many ways the opposite of what we&#039;re striving for. My hope is not that we would be an area defined by a great ability to check things off the list, but that we would genuinely be reshaped at our core and our disposition toward life would be &#039;different&#039;, (i.e. contact work would be an outflow of our personal surrender and growth). 

I could defnitely see a time and place where this could be light-hearted and enticing, but for my area right now this would just seem to rob the sincerity and relationship of the ministry. 

Sidenote: I really appreciate this site and just the fact that you guys are working hard to improve the way we go about this things. Thanks so much for putting your hearts out there, and equipping so many people with great ideas.

-Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually having a conversation with one of the leaders in my area today about how to promote contact work and hold some element of accounatbility to the ministry. Both he and I agreed that a method like this would definitely lack authenticity and in many ways the Holy Spirit&#8217;s reshaping and leading of their lives. </p>
<p>I wish it were as easy as building an incentive for leaders to strive for, but I feel like this is in many ways the opposite of what we&#8217;re striving for. My hope is not that we would be an area defined by a great ability to check things off the list, but that we would genuinely be reshaped at our core and our disposition toward life would be &#8216;different&#8217;, (i.e. contact work would be an outflow of our personal surrender and growth). </p>
<p>I could defnitely see a time and place where this could be light-hearted and enticing, but for my area right now this would just seem to rob the sincerity and relationship of the ministry. </p>
<p>Sidenote: I really appreciate this site and just the fact that you guys are working hard to improve the way we go about this things. Thanks so much for putting your hearts out there, and equipping so many people with great ideas.</p>
<p>-Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Tucker</title>
		<link>http://ylhelp.com/2008/03/12/the-5020-club/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t know about your area but there are a lot of leaders into the office right now and i think it would be cool to win a &quot;Dundee&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t know about your area but there are a lot of leaders into the office right now and i think it would be cool to win a &#8220;Dundee&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chad swanzy</title>
		<link>http://ylhelp.com/2008/03/12/the-5020-club/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>chad swanzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro that content on the Collaboration post is awesome. I see four embellished videos. For the firefighter I see that Jim Carey character of the firemarshal routine, for police an over zealous Reno 911 good cop bad cop skit, I could go on. Great stuff. The verse, how could I forget that verse. It&#039;s perfect. Sick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bro that content on the Collaboration post is awesome. I see four embellished videos. For the firefighter I see that Jim Carey character of the firemarshal routine, for police an over zealous Reno 911 good cop bad cop skit, I could go on. Great stuff. The verse, how could I forget that verse. It&#8217;s perfect. Sick!</p>
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